"pip bip - choose Corrour" (hhgttg69)
01/13/2017 at 01:27 • Filed to: Holden, GMH, GM-Holden, final day of production, 2017, 20/10/2017 | 0 | 12 |
http://www.motoring.com.au/holdens-last-aussie-commodore-to-be-built-on-october-20-105468/
Wheelerguy
> pip bip - choose Corrour
01/13/2017 at 01:32 | 0 |
Witness.
Svend
> pip bip - choose Corrour
01/13/2017 at 02:07 | 0 |
Such a shame.
Holden is one of those cars like Vauxhall, some are rebadged Opels from abroad while some are made in our respective lands to then be badged as Opels elsewhere.
The Holden name is part of Australia and it’s rich and diverse history.
Here’s a question for you Pip bip. Does Australia, the people of and Holdens workers want the name to go as the manufacturing has gone or stay on? As all cars badged Holdens after the 20th will be Opels.
I’m not sure what the U.K., our people or it’s workers will feel like if they stopped making Vauxhalls/Opels in the U.K then saw European, Asian, North American, etc... Opels driving around with Vauxhall badges on.
Will some of the tooling be kept for parts manufacturing for the cars that need them years down the line?
RoverMG Group parts were/are being manufactured by Caterpillar to keep the supply chain running.
pip bip - choose Corrour
> Svend
01/13/2017 at 02:16 | 2 |
Holden will be making parts for some time yet.
as for the name, we want it to remain, the Commodore name should be retired though, but GM-Holden in their infinite wisdom decided to keep it going
the Holden name won’t disappear, too much heritage to throw away.
by renaming the entire company to Opel or Chevrolet would be counter productive.
Svend
> pip bip - choose Corrour
01/13/2017 at 02:22 | 0 |
Glad to hear it mate.
GUYMANDUDE
> pip bip - choose Corrour
01/13/2017 at 10:05 | 0 |
I’m confused.
Where will the cars be manufactured?
Why is holden campaigning a 2017 Commodore in V8 supercars and closing its doors at the same time?
pip bip - choose Corrour
> GUYMANDUDE
01/13/2017 at 10:09 | 1 |
all Holdens after Oct 20 will be imports from Korea / Europe / Thailand or wherever GM have plants. down the track we’re getting other models from the USA/Mexico too. (unless they too will be made in Korea)
pip bip - choose Corrour
> GUYMANDUDE
01/13/2017 at 10:09 | 0 |
as for the supercars, Commodore still in showrooms but 2018 it will be the Insignia/Commodore.
Nauraushaun
> Svend
01/14/2017 at 05:09 | 1 |
I think people want the Holden name to go on. There’s this illusion that they’re
more Australian
than Ford. It means a lot to Australians, even if it’s not true at all.
Svend
> Nauraushaun
01/14/2017 at 05:50 | 0 |
I think that is very much the same for Vauxhall.
We see the occasional Opel on U.K. roads either because the U.K. owner got a better deal in Europe or they are tourists from over the river.
People don’t look at them differently but if the Vauxhall badge was to go. I can see a lot of people not being very happy.
Take the new Vauxhall Viva. It’s the same as the Opel Karl but the Karl is named after Opel’s son (as is the Adam, but we kept the Adam name because I don’t think Vauxhall knew at the time Opel were going to ake a name thing of Opel’s sons), but Opel’s history doesn’t apply to Vauxhall, so they went with a different name.
Nauraushaun
> Svend
01/14/2017 at 22:00 | 0 |
That’s just it! But they’re all American cars from an American owned company. Even so, if they were badged as Chevrolets (as I’m sure some are in America) nobody would want them, and I’m sure people perceive them as being closer to home than Ford.
Svend
> Nauraushaun
01/15/2017 at 02:30 | 0 |
I think even Americans perceive Opel, Vauxhall and Holden as ‘not American’ and to an extent not even GM. The parent company is American but all the cars are done inhouse outside the U.S. sure GM has to finance the R&D and sign them off but even when Buick decides to take one home, they see them as Buick badged Opels, etc...
Nauraushaun
> Svend
01/15/2017 at 04:54 | 1 |
That seems accurate. The issue in Australia is one of comparison: the perception that Ford is
more
American.